May 09, · Because vinyl is in a non compressed format it is true that you get more at the low and high end but most of this information is inaudiable and in the case of the bass is the stuff you feel rather than hear. Vinyl is a funny format and does need a lot of tweaking to get its best but you sound like you know the items to check. I can only think. Dec 31, · Less bass from vinyl compared to cd is quite normal. If a vinyl record was to have the same bass as cd there wouldnt be room for many songs on an lp. What you could get is a powered subwoofer which you can adjust via remote, when playing vinyl turn it up a couple of notches. Feb 12, · You will be amazed at the quietness of vinyl when a proper cleaning procedure is in place. But there are only two main words to remember in quietning down vinyl - "wet" and "vacuum". As far as preparation just prior to playing an LP, I would advise .
Location: New Jersey. LesPaulJul 27, Location: USA. One part of a Ten years After song comes to mind when speaking of deep bass, following the end of "As the Sun still burns away" Cricklewood Green there is a bass effect where the bottom end just slows down while at the same time goes way deep. If you have that LP, give it a spin. It will shake the pictures on the wall, guaranteed if your speakers can move air, or better yet, if you have a sub, Can You Feel It Bass - Flash K - The Antistatic E.P.
(Vinyl). Vinyl-AddictJul 27, Location: Indeed it does go deeper on CD. All the way into subsonic frequencies. But for music the LP as a medium does pretty well.
All else being equal though I'd have to say CD does have an edge here with extreme material. Scott WheelerJul 27, Mark Spencer likes this. Location: Torremolinos, Spain. EddieVanHalenJul 27, Location: charleston, sc. Location: Pleasantville, NY. I have Rob Wassweman's "Duets" on vinyl. When I play it at no more than 85 dB SPL measure with a sound pressure meter it rattles the china two rooms away. As you can see from my profile I do not have a subwoofer.
If vinyl is lacking in bass I have yet to experience it. Tony PlachyJul 27, Location: D. If there is one thing good about JLGBJul 28, Scott WheelerJul 28, JLGB likes this. Location: Austin, TX. Technically, vinyl has an unbounded lower frequency limit although 0hz is probably not possiblebut its signal to noise ratio becomes unbearably low at some point, and may even become negative.
You might also have mistracking issues to contend with at strong low frequencies. PubliusJul 28, Location: South Mountain, NC. JBStephensJul 28, Well it isbut in very small quantity, there's NO slam or thud, and this is on all albums whether it's bob marley or grateful dead. Now I know vinyl is meant to have the upper hand in the LF area well all areasbut comparing it to a standin CDP old technics cheapo it's put to shame, Bob can have the window's rattling through the 15" Tannoy's.
So I know this is not meant to be the case. VTA - arm looks flat but haven't measured. The TT is flat checked with spirit levelon it's own wall mounted shelf. So, would someone please be able to give me some suggestions as to what might be up please?
Thanks Harry. Unfortunately, whoever gave you the impression that vinyl has the edge in the bass area was wrong. That's the key area that CD has the upper hand. Vinyl as a format is limited by the physical width of the grooves. In addition, cheaper decks won't have the control over the tip of the stylus, thus making the problem even worse. Because vinyl is in a non compressed format it is true that you get more at the low and high end but most of this information is inaudiable and in the case of the bass is the stuff you feel rather than hear.
Vinyl is a funny format and does need a lot of tweaking to get its best but you sound like you know the items to check. I can only think your phono stage may not be compatible with your arm, cartridge choice and suggest if you can, trying something different. I admit this isn't the highest end deck, but when it came out it was meant to compete with Rega Planar 2s, although didn't quite make it.
So assuming you've corrected me, cd's are better in the bass department, i still can't believe the gap can be this wide. I mean, it's shocking. But looking at a new cartridge may be the next option, as I've run out of others.
And yeah I've tried all the tweaking etc. Being fair,I think that both of you are right in various respects Another point is that not all cartridges are as good as others in the bass department,and whilst yours isnt well used,age can have a fairly Can You Feel It Bass - Flash K - The Antistatic E.P.
(Vinyl) effect on the suspensions of some cartridges Getting back to one of my original points CD given a good DAC,can produce superb controlled bass,but vinyl requires attention to many areas to get the same or better. I'm sorry Sukebe, but I have to disagree with that statement. So much so, in fact, that I have to use Can You Feel It Bass - Flash K - The Antistatic E.P. (Vinyl) resistors Can You Feel It Bass - Flash K - The Antistatic E.P. (Vinyl) port sponges in my speakers to compensate for the difference.
Tricky one. Although I have been shot down for saying so several times on several forums I have found that to get something that really kicks you need to spend a lot more money on a TT. Low end TTs and budget arms just cant handle the transients as well as top spec kit, it really is a case of 'the more you spend As has been pointed out, there is a massive amount of synergy involved with choosing a TT set up.
Its at least as difficult as setting up an entire hifi system speakers, source, amp, cables, stands. There is also the quality of the record itself Budget set ups dont generally react very well to super hi cut vinyl, they either mistrack or just bludgeon the track to death. Even a good set up can struggle as the whole audio chain goes into melt down trying to cope with the vibrations imparted by the TT combination This is fired through a pair of Avondale modified phono boards. The bass on something like Michael Hedges Aerial Boundaries can feel like the room is pressurising.
If you dont think vinyl is capable of bass dynamics there is a good Can You Feel It Bass - Flash K - The Antistatic E.P. (Vinyl) to prove it can One thing that you should NOT have not done, regardless of the sound of your system, is to use the graduations on the arm for set up Pound for pound, an equivalently priced cd player will beat a TT in terms of bass, up to a certain level.
Over this, your TT should start to show its superiority in the lower octaves. As others have said however, this is highly dependent on following anciliaries the phono stage is massively important and overall set-up.
F Banned. My Orb modded Gyodec has excellent bass, but the orb upgrades didn't contribute a huge amount really, standard gyro and SE models i suspect are very good. Important as mentioned is the settup, positioning and platform the TT is sat on, eg, i noticed a huge difference swapping a flimsy mdf platform for a solid 25mm granite one.
QUOTE] But apparently those inaudiable frequencies play an important part in the reproduction, has an effect on how we perceive the music. Just had a look at the Q deck, my suggestions other than mentioned are - Get a record clamp. If the platter matt has aged and is very hard, replace it, try alternatives like cork too.
Oct 10, · For that price is HAS to be a piece of junk. For the same money you can get an older deck from the 70's or 80's that will be 10x better. I bought a Technics SL-B for US$40 from a family member and an SL-B for $10 at a yard sale, needed a $10 belt. Both had decent cartridges already. Get out from under that turd while you still can. Jul 28, · I have Rob Wassweman's "Duets" on vinyl. When I play it at no more than 85 dB SPL (measure with a sound pressure meter) it rattles the china two rooms away. As you can see from my profile I do not have a subwoofer. I have no SACD's or CD's that do the same. If vinyl is lacking in bass I have yet to experience it. Jan 30, · Wetfeet, I think that you made the right decision, whether you have lots of vinyl or no. The thing is to have clean vinyl. This quiets the noise and saves your cartridge. If you think about doubling or tripling the lifespan of a good cartridge, you can afford quite the record cleaner! I use ultrasound. DIY audio has a good thread on this.
Nov 13, · I wanted to put a list of surfaces Vinyl will not stick to for my customers so they wont make a mistake. Ill mostly be using Oracal for home and auto. Ive read that some paints even on a smotth surface will not let the decal stick like it should. Does .
Jul 22, · You can make it go futher by using some coffee filters to catch some of the gunk when you pour the fluid back to re-use. As for the 7" stuff, I was talking about anti-static sleeves, I haven't found any for sale in the UK, thanks for posting those links. May 23, · Okay open up the cavity of your bass. Often a plate at the back. Check all connections to the volume controls, and any wires you may find. Now there is always a wire that goes to your bridge. *rubs chin* sometimes you can access it from the cavity, somethimes you have to go the hard yards and take the bridge off.
Was dying to get it again on vinyl so jumped at the chance when I saw it was available and at grams! But was very disappointed once again to find the inner sleeve was not anti static, can't believe at the price you pay such a simple and cheap addition is not included as standard!/5().
Nov 13, · I wanted to put a list of surfaces Vinyl will not stick to for my customers so they wont make a mistake. Ill mostly be using Oracal for home and auto. Ive read that some paints even on a smotth surface will not let the decal stick like it should. Does . Was dying to get it again on vinyl so jumped at the chance when I saw it was available and at grams! But was very disappointed once again to find the inner sleeve was not anti static, can't believe at the price you pay such a simple and cheap addition is not included as standard!/5().
If you do, you could try these first and see if it reduces static for you. While the anti-static stick doesn't work the same way as a gun it should get you a similar result at the end of the day. level 1.
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